English versión of the text published in: SÁNCHEZ, José A. y CONDE-SALAZAR, Jaime (eds.), Cuerpos sobre blanco, UCLM, Cuenca, 2003, pp. 63-76. This text is the result of two conversations with Olga Mesa. The first one took place at her place in Madrid, in autumn 2000, in the presence of Ignacio Oliva, who filmed the…